In this episode I am having a conversation with David Bronner, the CEO or Chief Cosmic Engagement Officer of Dr. Bronner’s. Dr. Bronner's is the top-selling soap in the U.S. natural marketplace. They only use the purest organic & Fair Trade ingredients, and they are a third-generation Jewish soap maker from Heilbronn, Germany. We talked psychedelics and how a company works, if it is run by a Cosmic Engagement Officer, a CEO with a psychedelic experience and lifestyle. Dr. Bronner’s is involved in the new psychedelic world, supporting MAPS (https://maps.org/), where David sits on the board. Plus: the company supports several decriminalise nature campaigns. David’s jewish ancestors were killed in Theresienstadt and Auschwitz. So we talked how inherited holocaust trauma could be cured with the help of psychedelics and how this might become a serious treatment.